Porsche gives a green light to 911 hybrid.....

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Porsche gives a green light to 911 hybrid.....#197468

By JustBud - Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:47 pm

- Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:47 pm #197468

Apparently the 992.2 will have a hybrid option??? Now the turbo not TURBO guys will have something to feel as superior as the naturally aspirated boys...

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Re: Porsche gives a green light to 911 hybrid.....#197472

By NSXguy - Sat Jan 28, 2023 12:41 am

- Sat Jan 28, 2023 12:41 am #197472

Please leave the 911 alone, they have other platforms to 'hybridize' or make all-electric until the madness passes

Re: Porsche gives a green light to 911 hybrid.....#197569

By wsh - Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:56 pm

- Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:56 pm #197569

Amen
Why can't they leave anything alone ???

Porsche has SUV's, sedans, EV's, can't we have anything not burdened with woke, heavy, expensive-to-replace nonsense ???

I just ordered new DD, 2023 BMW M550i. Was going to wait until the fall and order the "new" 5 series until I found out the top (non M5) 5 series would be a hybrid I6. So 523 V-8 hp it is

Re: Porsche gives a green light to 911 hybrid.....#197844

By amdavid - Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:38 pm

- Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:38 pm #197844

I wish Porsche would give the green light to building smaller lighter Porsche's again. The 911 has become a very large sports car in my opinion. Part of my love for 911's grew from its stance and size....cira 80's and early 90's. Now.....they big.

Re: Porsche gives a green light to 911 hybrid.....#197862

By worf - Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:44 pm

- Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:44 pm #197862

This is not a surprise. At all.

When the 992 was released, PAG included the description of several (IIRC 7) inches of space available for a longer transaxle case so as to accommodate a hybrid drivetrain.

Car weight is driven by regulation and focus-group-driven marketing. IMO.

But, yeah, I agree. Modern cars are too heavy and hybrid drivetrains - especially in sports cars - are dorky.

I love my 718 Cayman T: A bit less than 3100 pounds.

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Re: Porsche gives a green light to 911 hybrid.....#197868

By fpena944 - Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:22 pm

- Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:22 pm #197868

Forgot to take a picture of a 356 at Daytona. Small enough to fit in my pocket compared to the 992 that was next to it!

But yeah I wonder with all of the other product lines to support the corporate mileage objectives, why mess with the 911?

Re: Porsche gives a green light to 911 hybrid.....#197913

By worf - Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:40 pm

- Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:40 pm #197913

fpena944 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:22 pm But yeah I wonder with all of the other product lines to support the corporate mileage objectives, why mess with the 911?

IDK.

My bet:
- corporate fuel economy. (Enables more GT/special-version car sales at ridiculous margin to folks that collect them.)
- plenty of woke buyers that want to virtue-signal saving the planet
- better 0-60 numbers
- smaller displacement engines means lower tax/tariff rates in countries (many) were displacement is taxed.

Last... hedging bets and fear.

Unless Porsche can create an ecosystem around their ersatz liquid fuel research the 911 goes away - for the most part - in 2035. At best ICE-power cars will be a mid-sized niche for countries (and some US states) where ICE isn't banned at the end of 2034. They need to evolve it into something their market will be as-excited about in 2035 as is their current ICE-craving market.

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Re: Porsche gives a green light to 911 hybrid.....#197998

By AKSteve - Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:51 am

- Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:51 am #197998

worf wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:44 pm This is not a surprise. At all.

I heard a while back that the reason the 992 doesn't have AM radio was because of plans for a future electric or hybrid model and electromagnetic interference screws up AM radio reception.

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