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How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 2:41 pm
by Fox_
I'm bottom feeding looking for something of a "slam pig".

I have dreams of further being the bane of Porsche purists by swapping in an LS at some point.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005- ... -coupe-47/


If this stays below $20,000.

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 3:54 pm
by lupo.sk
No good story ever begins with “I made a wise and well informed decision”. :drunk: :drunk: :drunk:

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 4:14 pm
by fpena944
Fox_ wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 2:41 pm I'm bottom feeding looking for something of a "slam pig".

I have dreams of further being the bane of Porsche purists by swapping in an LS at some point.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005- ... -coupe-47/


If this stays below $20,000.
My 996 cabrio, which I've had for about 15 years now, is closing in on 200k miles. Only major work on it is changing out the IMSB at around 110k miles.

So yes, go for it!

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:07 pm
by amdavid
That looks like a great "starter" 997. The 3.6 is a better motor in general than the 3.8. Do it.

Curious to see what this end up selling at...

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:12 pm
by Fox_
It's high mileage, 7 owners. I imagine she's a little sloppy.

My top dollar is $20,000 with current limited information, last sold for $26,500. Slim chance? On the previous auction someone mentioned seeing one bank smoking on the cold start.

It'd be interesting to run it until it pops, or doesn't. Not sure it's worth doing anything with the flat six when a conversion kit and brand new crate LS can be had for sub $15,000.

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:47 pm
by amdavid
I watched the startup, not bad at all.

I once bought a 987, 2.7 Boxster with 168k miles, drove the shit out of it for 2 years. Sold to an East coast guy who called me on Sunday, asked questions about car, said he would fly out that Tuesday and drive it home. No incidents on his drive home and he said the drive and car were "fantastic". Sloppy means it slips in easier! There were maybe 3 times while I owned it where a cold start was met by a garage full of smoke....life of a pancake!

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:53 pm
by Fox_
I'm likely to bid on it.

I don't know how much over $20,000 I'm willing to go. I also don't need three vehicles.
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Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:13 pm
by lupo.sk
Fox_ wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:53 pm I'm likely to bid on it.

I don't know how much over $20,000 I'm willing to go. I also don't need three vehicles.

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I don’t need three vehicles sounds like a fucking quitter to me :drunk:

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 6:16 am
by fpena944
Fox_ wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:53 pm I also don't need three vehicles.
I've got 4 p-cars, rookie!

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 1:02 pm
by Fox_
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Early engine with the small IMS bearing

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 1:46 pm
by amdavid
I think anything under 22k you'd be getting a good "deal". Dooo it!

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2025 8:37 am
by Fox_
I made my meme bids, so I'll sit and wait until tomorrow at the end.

So, I just got a call I'm not getting my truck back until the end of November. The 928 was pressed back into DD service, 1400 mile round trip, however the AC is out and I didn't order parts.

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Based on this I believe it's going to go for too much.
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Yeah, it's going for the same or more than the seller bought it for, having done exactly zero maintenance.. Didn't even change the old tires. I'm out. Good day for the seller.

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Not a $28k car oh well.

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 3:23 pm
by Fox_
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3oq0ZE ... oupe?c=all

Oh look, another one.

Interior is UGGO.

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 5:23 pm
by amdavid
Do it. I want to see if you can get an > 100k example for under 24k.

I've got stone grey and I'd personally rather have sand beige....not a huge fan of black either.

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 5:59 pm
by Fox_
I want either a 996 4S or a 997.1. Those are my targets.

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2025 6:08 pm
by amdavid
Better chance of finding a 997.1....they made more of them and for some reason the 996 4S commands a hefty premium over a base (they do look better!). I will keep an eye out, but I really haven't seen anything under 30 in a while.

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:45 am
by Fox 3
fpena944 wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 4:14 pm
Fox_ wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 2:41 pm I'm bottom feeding looking for something of a "slam pig".

I have dreams of further being the bane of Porsche purists by swapping in an LS at some point.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005- ... -coupe-47/


If this stays below $20,000.
My 996 cabrio, which I've had for about 15 years now, is closing in on 200k miles. Only major work on it is changing out the IMSB at around 110k miles.

So yes, go for it!

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 10:59 am
by fpena944
Fox 3 wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:45 am
fpena944 wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 4:14 pm
Fox_ wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 2:41 pm I'm bottom feeding looking for something of a "slam pig".

I have dreams of further being the bane of Porsche purists by swapping in an LS at some point.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005- ... -coupe-47/


If this stays below $20,000.
My 996 cabrio, which I've had for about 15 years now, is closing in on 200k miles. Only major work on it is changing out the IMSB at around 110k miles.

So yes, go for it!
But that one has the legendary Mezger engine. Mine has the plain old M96. :bigcry:

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 12:11 pm
by Fox_
The 996 wide bodies go for an absurd premium.

Amdavid is correct.

However, There was a 4 a 3.4 that failed to meet reserve at $18,500

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 5:24 pm
by amdavid
You're stating the obvious :evilgrin: ......there's a huge gap between a narrow body 996, and just about any other 911!

Fox_ wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 12:11 pm The 996 wide bodies go for an absurd premium.

Amdavid is correct.

However, There was a 4 a 3.4 that failed to meet reserve at $18,500

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 9:39 am
by fpena944
amdavid wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 5:24 pm You're stating the obvious :evilgrin: ......there's a huge gap between a narrow body 996, and just about any other 911!

Fox_ wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 12:11 pm The 996 wide bodies go for an absurd premium.

Amdavid is correct.

However, There was a 4 a 3.4 that failed to meet reserve at $18,500
I remember the days where you couldn't give away a 2.7 liter 911 or a 964.

Not saying the 996 will ever turn into that but with the 992s feeling more like GTs than sports cars, we may one day live in a time where that 1st gen water-cooled is heralded because of its simplicity and light weight!

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 9:44 am
by Fox_
If you're going to spend $45,000 on a C4S you might as well spend a little more and get a Turbo.

I contacted a guy had a C4S for sale on rennlist for $31,000. He never got back with me, relisted on Cars & Bids.

Bid to $32,000 on the first day.

Wait, no, the deleted the bid and banned the guy.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9Q5dak ... oupe?c=all

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 5:30 pm
by amdavid
My original advice still stands..........look for a high mile 997.1, or stop screwing around and pony up for a 996TT.

Fox_ wrote: Thu Dec 04, 2025 9:44 am If you're going to spend $45,000 on a C4S you might as well spend a little more and get a Turbo.

I contacted a guy had a C4S for sale on rennlist for $31,000. He never got back with me, relisted on Cars & Bids.

Bid to $32,000 on the first day.

Wait, no, the deleted the bid and banned the guy.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9Q5dak ... oupe?c=all

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 7:04 pm
by N_Jay
Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high mileage 997.1?

It's a horrible idea. Get two!

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2025 1:25 pm
by Skyhawk172

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 12:17 pm
by amdavid
@Skyhawk172 That ended up being out of budget, by a long shot. Sold for USD $62,250 12/11/2025

@Fox 3 What's the word on your search? Did you sell the 9 2 8?

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 3:07 pm
by Fox_
Wrong fox I do believe.

tl;dr: many things, little time.

I have very limited free time. I’m going to do some work on the 928 before selling it, especially after seeing how poorly hese cars are still doing at auction.

996s keep selling high, and higher-mileage 997s are a bit rarer. I’m not forcing a buy. yet. Lack of conviction? The Raptor took almost a year to settle on and find.

I’m also looking to buy or build a shop as soon as I find a seller who isn’t head-up-ass delusional. Either zero interest rates broke people’s brains, broke the dollar, or both. Logically, that should come before another car.

Last two cars I bid on:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003- ... -targa-25/
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9Wg61G ... oupe?c=all

Watching this one to see what it goes for:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999- ... ion_Update

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 5:50 pm
by amdavid
Yeah, wrong fox.

Too bad you missed this one. https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rwZMA2 ... ref=lr_1_7

Yes, take your time.

Re: How bad of an idea is a rather questionable, high milage 997.1?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 5:53 pm
by Fox_
I specifically didn't buy that one because tiptronic.