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New 911 has been launched. This is the one that will support a hybrid drivetrain and unfortunately now has an all-digital dash. No more analog instruments on the 911.

Here is the video of the livestream, what are your thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/live/5bfGgpSIg0Y

Once the 718 goes away, Porsche is dead to me (except for parts.)

But, this was the case with the debut of the 992.1 in late 2019.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/05/po ... long-last/

“There is still a 12 V battery for starting the car, but it's now a compact lithium-ion battery that lives under the rear parcel shelf.”

OMG! On the 991 the rear parcel shelf is part of the unibody; it isn’t removable.

If the same on the 992, the motor will have to be dropped to replace the 12v battery.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a6089 ... -revealed/

Some interesting stuff:

“ Though increasing in size from 3.0 to 3.6 liters and with maximum boost rising from 18.6 to 26.1 psi, the new engine's power only increases by five ponies—from 473 to 478. And peak torque rises not at all from 420 pound-feet. The culprit is Lambda 1—engine designers' shorthand for a perfectly balanced ratio of fuel and air—used at all engine operating points. With no rich mixture available during high boost, combustion temperatures rise to a point where ignition timing must be dramatically retarded to control detonation. The upside is less smog emission at full power.”

So, crap fuel mixture. No more power mixture (12.6:1) when giving it the beans. Thanks you fucking Tree Huggers.

“ and the water pump has been moved inside the engine and driven by an extension of the oil pumps.”

Given that Porsche has never been able to design/source a water pump that lasts for 100k miles, 992.2 owners are looking at a reman motor when the water pump busts out of warranty.

worf wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 7:31 pm Once the 718 goes away, Porsche is dead to me (except for parts.)

But, this was the case with the debut of the 992.1 in late 2019.

It does seem like they're now an SUV company that creates a limited number of exclusive models that can be marked up beyond retail for wealthy buyers.

When I compare the lineup from the 1990s where you had the 944, 911, and 928 - you really don't have the same points of entry and then moving up the line unless you start with a base 992 Carrera and then move up to a Turbo S.

And I still can't believe the 718 will be gone soon considering how often I see them used on tracks. What will take their place?

worf wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 7:32 pm https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/05/po ... long-last/

“There is still a 12 V battery for starting the car, but it's now a compact lithium-ion battery that lives under the rear parcel shelf.”

OMG! On the 991 the rear parcel shelf is part of the unibody; it isn’t removable.

If the same on the 992, the motor will have to be dropped to replace the 12v battery.

I don't think they're at all concerned about longevity here. These are cars that end up being leased or purchased and then swapped out for a newer one in 2-3 years.

worf wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:13 pm https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a6089 ... -revealed/

Some interesting stuff:

“ Though increasing in size from 3.0 to 3.6 liters and with maximum boost rising from 18.6 to 26.1 psi, the new engine's power only increases by five ponies—from 473 to 478. And peak torque rises not at all from 420 pound-feet. The culprit is Lambda 1—engine designers' shorthand for a perfectly balanced ratio of fuel and air—used at all engine operating points. With no rich mixture available during high boost, combustion temperatures rise to a point where ignition timing must be dramatically retarded to control detonation. The upside is less smog emission at full power.”

So, crap fuel mixture. No more power mixture (12.6:1) when giving it the beans. Thanks you fucking Tree Huggers.

“ and the water pump has been moved inside the engine and driven by an extension of the oil pumps.”

Given that Porsche has never been able to design/source a water pump that lasts for 100k miles, 992.2 owners are looking at a reman motor when the water pump busts out of warranty.

As mentioned above, longevity is probably not top of mind anymore. And you can bet those making the laws just want to strangle the ICE powerplants so they can push their EV agenda.

worf wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:13 pm https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a6089 ... -revealed/

Some interesting stuff:

“ Though increasing in size from 3.0 to 3.6 liters and with maximum boost rising from 18.6 to 26.1 psi, the new engine's power only increases by five ponies—from 473 to 478. And peak torque rises not at all from 420 pound-feet. The culprit is Lambda 1—engine designers' shorthand for a perfectly balanced ratio of fuel and air—used at all engine operating points. With no rich mixture available during high boost, combustion temperatures rise to a point where ignition timing must be dramatically retarded to control detonation. The upside is less smog emission at full power.”

So, crap fuel mixture. No more power mixture (12.6:1) when giving it the beans. Thanks you fucking Tree Huggers.

Sounds like a tuner's dream.

Oh crap I didn't realize the manual transmission is gone for 2025:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-2025- ... og-anymore

Unless this article is wrong? This is the first time I've seen it mentioned.