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928 quick questions thread

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:43 pm
by h2pmr
THREAD RULES :order:
one question per post
quote question in reply
ideally questions that don't warrant many lines of a reply.

first question :

does the mounting bracket for the radiator hold down's have a part number or was it never available, pictured

cheers
Phil
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Re: random easy question thread ?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:00 pm
by worf
Phil, this is a good idea.

I would suggest one post per part though for “Thread Rules.”

For the little threaded mount for radiator hold-down… I have never found a part number for it.

A long time ago I had an S4 come in with that and the hold-down missing. This was 15 years ago so my memory may be off. But, I remember looking for the part number and eventually giving up and finding someone that was just about done parting-out a 928 and had them cut those bits off.

Re: random easy question thread ?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:11 pm
by h2pmr
thanks Dave, yes 1 question per post is now the rule :thumbup:

Re: random easy question thread ?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:21 pm
by linderpat
For the jack bag, I'd ask Brian Wasserman (Olmann on RL). He's the go to interior guy, and could tell you what the material is, and make one for you too.

Me - I need a rear cargo cover - who has one to sell or where can I get one?

Re: random easy question thread ?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:26 pm
by h2pmr
rear cargo cover:
https://woodypeck.com/

Re: random easy question thread ?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:28 pm
by h2pmr
linderpat wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:21 pm For the jack bag, I'd ask Brian Wasserman (Olmann on RL). He's the go to interior guy, and could tell you what the material is, and make one for you too.

perfect, will contact him :thumbup:

Re: random easy question thread ?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:32 pm
by worf
linderpat wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:21 pm Me - I need a rear cargo cover - who has one to sell or where can I get one?
You need one to strip it of hardware for a rebuild with the non-‘stretchy’ material?

If you are looking for concours then, as of a year or four ago, PAG had commissioned a run of new ones. In black. IIRC. If you need to know the price then they aren’t for you though. (~$1500.)

928-555-179-02-70G is the part number for black.

Re: random easy question thread ?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:41 pm
by linderpat
Thanks Dave, I’m not looking for hi end, just to cover things in the back so that prying eyes can’t see. A stock cover is fine. I’ll check out that Woodypeck site.

Re: random easy question thread ?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:45 pm
by jschiller
linderpat wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:21 pm
Me - I need a rear cargo cover - who has one to sell or where can I get one?
Here is a thread on TOS that has some more details. Apparently they differ according to the MY.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/9 ... ct-s4.html

I used Sandra Amberg in Stuttgart for mine:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/1 ... tions.html

Re: random easy question thread ?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:14 pm
by linderpat
Thanks I’ll check them out too

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:16 am
by h2pmr
make this a sticky thread ?
and delete this post,

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:15 pm
by h2pmr
is that how the key head crest looked back in 1990, or should the bars be in red and they have just worn off?
cheers
Phil

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Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:40 pm
by worf
h2pmr wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:15 pm is that how the key head crest looked back in 1990, or should the bars be in red and they have just worn off?
cheers
Phil
I’m pretty sure that’s how it looked. All silver. OTOH, Porsche may have had a “painted crest” option for the key head.

I have - I seem to recall - a NOS key head on the shelf. It’s ~25 years old. If I don’t forget, I’ll snap a picture of it.

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:57 pm
by worf
Well… wuddayano…

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Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:58 pm
by worf
I don’t know if the above picture is a definitive answer to the question of “what was original.”

I still think plain silver was original. But, memory is a tricky thing.

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:20 pm
by h2pmr
thanks Dave, :thumbup:
looking at a coloured one the parts in red have been dug out and then filled with red enamel.
the plain versions are flush with the rest of the crest, so must be original.
cheers
Phil
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Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:26 pm
by h2pmr
have the rear storage box out of the 90 and its an original can can red.

is can can red leather or leatherette ?

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Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:47 pm
by h2pmr
cover for the ignition switch wiring connector 92861288700, cannot find it on PET.
anybody know its price or NLA?
cheers
Phil
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Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:42 pm
by mr928
rear lock cover 90-95 928-612-088-02 currently available and cheap

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:14 pm
by jschiller
5sp rear shifter coupler bushing replacement...for those who have done one.

Do I need to drop the exhaust then the heatshield to most easily pull the coupler for a bushing replacement? It looks doable, barely, with it all in place but is removing the exhaust and heatshield worth the additional aggravation? I have to do this in the driveway as my lift is blocked by 2 immovable cars at the moment. I've got lots of rusty bolts holding the exhaust together and I don't want to go down that rabbit hole just yet. Somebody has been in there before me as the bellows is entirely missing.

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:27 pm
by worf
jschiller wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:14 pm 5sp rear shifter coupler bushing replacement...for those who have done one.

Do I need to drop the exhaust then the heatshield to most easily pull the coupler for a bushing replacement?
I seem to recall doing this job on several occasions by unscrewing the center and rear left/right heat shields and then scooching them out of the way. It’s mostly the center shield that gets in the way.

It is also possible that I did that first and then decided it wouldn’t work and pulled the exhaust.

But, no time is lost trying it that way.

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:51 pm
by jschiller
worf wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:27 pm I seem to recall doing this job on several occasions by unscrewing the center and rear left/right heat shields and then scooching them out of the way. It’s mostly the center shield that gets in the way.

It is also possible that I did that first and then decided it wouldn’t work and pulled the exhaust.

But, no time is lost trying it that way.
That's a good place to start. The heatshield screws are in far better condition than the exhaust bolts so I'll start there. Thanks Dave.

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:26 pm
by jschiller
Your initial instinct was right on the money. Heatshield removal was sufficient. Got it loose but not out. With the pinch bolt and grub screw out, still stuck on the splines on the shaft. :banghead:

EDIT: It's out. I somehow missed the part where I was supposed to put the shifter in 1st :lol2:

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 4:42 pm
by worf
jschiller wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:26 pm Your initial instinct was right on the money. Heatshield removal was sufficient. Got it loose but not out. With the pinch bolt and grub screw out, still stuck on the splines on the shaft. :banghead:

EDIT: It's out. I somehow missed the part where I was supposed to put the shifter in 1st :lol2:
Good work!

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:42 pm
by hessank
ABS Relay 928-615-124-01 vs 03

What's the diff?
Will the 01 work on my 89?

Thanks

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:15 pm
by worf
hessank wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:42 pm ABS Relay 928-615-124-01 vs 03

What's the diff?
Will the 01 work on my 89?

Thanks
The 01 is superseded by the 03. As with all supersessions of Porsche parts, some are fine, some are ‘meh’ and some don’t work at all, ever. It isn’t a recent supersession. Nothing I have will point to the original application year of the 01.

Someone maintaining PET 5 on Windows XP would need to look up that 01 number to be sure.

But with all those caveats? Yeah, I think it will work just fine.

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:16 pm
by worf
Where’d you find the 01? Under a couch cushion? Must be pretty old?

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:36 pm
by h2pmr
the last 2 numbers of a 928 part number are usually the version of that part.
i guess they would start with 00 when they designed the part

92861512400 was i think up to early 80's
01 would have been what would have been in your car when new, so as long as its a good one, its got to work
03 is the latest version of the same relay, as Dave says, who knows what has changed inside it, if anything, it SHOULD work and probably will

while on part numbers if you have 2 parts on the bench i.e 928 341 389 03 and 928 341 390 03 and need to know which side of the car they fit, 389 is ALWAYS the drivers side in a LHD car and 390 is the passenger side.
i.e whatever the numbers the lowest number is ALWAYS the drivers side on a LHD car

if that makes sense

cheers
Phil

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:03 pm
by hessank
worf wrote:Where’d you find the 01? Under a couch cushion? Must be pretty old?
All over the internet.
i wanted to keep a cheap spare

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:57 am
by h2pmr
how much are sports seats worth at the moment?

don't want to give them away, and not in any desperate panic to sell them.
just the 4 way electrical adjustment and no heating
electrical switches need replacing but motors good.
no damage to any piping, no splits or tears anywhere, just need a good clean
just std leather not the ruffled type
cheers
Phil

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Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:23 pm
by worf
h2pmr wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:57 am how much are sports seats worth at the moment?
There exist lists of people waiting for 928 manual sport seats.

I have no idea what they are worth.

But, if you thoroughly clean them up, get them working and put them on BaT you’ll find out.

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:39 pm
by h2pmr
thanks Dave but wrong side of the pond for BaT
just a pity they are so ffing heavy as they would generate more interest your side of the pond
might stick it on ebay starting at £400 and a high reserve and see if there is any interest
cheers
Phil

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:41 pm
by h2pmr
highest bid on the sports seats is now £999 on ebay and 6 days left to go :thumbup:

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:45 pm
by h2pmr
radiator removed from the 90 S4 i am breaking and it looks newer than 34yrs old, would the plastic tag in it mean it was built in 2014?
cheers
Phil
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Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:32 pm
by worf
h2pmr wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:45 pm radiator removed from the 90 S4 i am breaking and it looks newer than 34yrs old, would the plastic tag in it mean it was built in 2014?
That’s as good a guess as any. Here’s another data point: the tag on my ‘91 GT’s original radiator.
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Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:51 am
by h2pmr
perfect, thanks for the picture of yours Dave, that does pretty much confirm it.
cheers
Phil

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 10:19 am
by Bertrand Daoust
What is the original finish and color of this part (muffler hook)?
Thanks.
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Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 2:10 pm
by worf
Bertrand Daoust wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 10:19 am What is the original finish and color of this part (muffler hook)?
Electroplated. With the iridescent yellow/gold finish.

And that plating which was as resilient to the elements as cadmium and as resistant to tooling marks as zinc but was *not* cadmium is knowledge lost to the ages and environmental regulations.

But, there are ways…

Re: 928 quick questions thread

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 6:17 am
by h2pmr
what does anybody use for an auto box sump plug as 96030791200 is NLA ?
cheers
Phil