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Testing valve seats with water?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:50 pm
by Dawid van der Walt
I see on Youtube people test valve seats by filling the combustion chamber with water. They also claim to to this without fitting the valve springs?

Is this how you test that your valves are seating properly after lapping them?

Cheers

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Re: Testing valve seats with water?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:59 am
by worf
Short answer: yes.

Re: Testing valve seats with water?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 10:37 am
by Schocki
An old mechanic checked it the same way but did it with fuel. I think fuel is better due to the fact that the surface tension is a lot lower. If it seals fuel, it's good to go.

Re: Testing valve seats with water?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:11 pm
by Dawid van der Walt
So why can't I get mine to seal? I have lapped them three times, with course, medium and fine past.
I did this by hand, and can hear them go smooth as I go.
The seats and valves are not pitted, and show an even slightly gray surface.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

Re: Testing valve seats with water?

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:05 pm
by h2pmr
if the valves and seats are both an even grey colour all round after you have ground them in with fine paste they should be good to go.

you could try hanging a weight onto the valve stem i.e GENTLY clamp mole grips onto the stem where the collets go to hold the valve to the seat.

cheers
Phil

Re: Testing valve seats with water?

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:30 pm
by maddog2020

Re: Testing valve seats with water?

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:03 pm
by Dawid van der Walt
Thanks guys. Do you think I could have warped the valves in my attempt to lighten them? :biggrin:

Jokes aside, I'll spend more time on them this weekend and hopefully get them sealing right.
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Re: Testing valve seats with water?

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:37 pm
by Dawid van der Walt
So after a weekend spent lapping each valve again, and testing each combustion chamber before moving on, I have success :beerchug: .

All 32 valves are sealing well. I'll check again when I have installed the valve springs.

Came across this trick that worked well for me.

Remove the suction cup from the lapping tool, and fit it to a socket adapter for a battery powered drill / screwdriver. With some fiddling you can center the cup so the valve doesn't experience to muck side to side forces.

Made the job much easier. My seats weren't badly pitted to start with but still required a fair amount of work.
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Now the assembly can get started. I plan to have the car at the last Cars and Coffee here on the first Saturday of December.