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Alternator cooling hose option

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:03 am
by Geza-aka-Zombo
I did testing on alternator cooling hoses as documented in the attached file - could be helpful to some in the future.

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Re: Alternator cooling hose option

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:45 am
by worf
https://www.aircraftspruce.com/pages/ep ... -sceet.php

or not quite as good

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/pages/ep ... d-ceet.php

I have some extra, I’ll see about doing an experiment myself.

Re: Alternator cooling hose option

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:21 pm
by linderpat
wow, expensive stuff! How does the price compare to the oem stuff?

Re: Alternator cooling hose option

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:37 pm
by worf
linderpat wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:21 pm wow, expensive stuff! How does the price compare to the oem stuff?
Each of those is good for three ducts: price is for 11 feet. So, not as expensive as you think if you’ve got 3 928s or two friends.

POS OEM hose is ~$120-140 last time I cared.

The CEET and SCEET ducting is pretty impervious to 928 fluid excretions.

Re: Alternator cooling hose option

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:37 pm
by Gary Knox
The hose David posted looks a lot like (maybe the same, maybe not!) this silicone hose, which I used for the intake for FI system on a classic BMW I sold a couple of years ago. Worked great - handles temps up to 260 degrees.

Much less expensive for one (or maybe two cars) at 3' length. Must cut the steel wire reinforcement to shorten. Available in different diameters, and also in orange/red or black. Don't remember the diameter of the 928 alternator cooling hose, these are 3" or 76 mm in diameter.

Orange/red:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/76MM-3-Flexibl ... SwUKxYmnpi

Black:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Silicone-3-76m ... SwVp1fiHeU

Gary

Re: Alternator cooling hose option

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:11 pm
by Stepson
I used the orange kind and it appears to be completely indestructible. !0 years old and not a fray or scratch or hole to be found.

Re: Alternator cooling hose option

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:12 pm
by Geza-aka-Zombo
linderpat wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:21 pm wow, expensive stuff! How does the price compare to the oem stuff?
I was under the impression the OEM hose was NLA? The one I used is the closest I could find at the time to OEM in terms of color and construction.

Re: Alternator cooling hose option

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:42 pm
by worf
Gary Knox wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:37 pm The hose David posted looks a lot like (maybe the same, maybe not!) this silicone hose,
Not exactly the same ducting, but same idea: impregnated hose.

From my links above wrote:
“CEET” type ducting has two plies of neoprene-impregnated fiberglass, similar to CAT except wire between plies. For use in hot or cold air applications and for conveying fumes at temperatures ranging from -65° to over 350°F.

"SCEET” type ducting has two plies of silicone rubber-impregnated fiber glass, similar to SCAT except wire be tween plies. Ideal for use in conducting extremely cold or hot air at temperatures from -80° to over 550°F, and for conveying fumes.
There's no kill like overkill.

PET says that 900mm is needed. 35.4 inches.

It is unclear what length of ducting is available from your e-bay links. Maybe that price is per foot?

Re: Alternator cooling hose option

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:50 pm
by worf
I'm recalling now - for values of 'recalling' that mean looking at my invoices - that the last time I bought a length of this stuff, I noticed that the prices for overkill had doubled.

According to my records, I went with kill-just-enough last time:

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/ ... d-scat.php

$146 for 3 ducts worth of 2-1/2" ducting.

This stuff is not double-ply, so a bit weaker that the S/CEET. But still better than OE (which can be used as a towel for mopping up power steering fluid spills.)

The black stuff is even cheaper:

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/ ... ad-cat.php

Re: Alternator cooling hose option

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:55 pm
by Gary Knox
The ebay hoses on the link I posted are 1 meter lengths - essentially 40". Thus, it exceeds PET length for the cooling hose..

Re: Alternator cooling hose option

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:04 pm
by GUMBALL
Selection of hose available from McMaster-Carr:

https://www.mcmaster.com/ventilation-ho ... for-fumes/

Re: Alternator cooling hose option

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:23 pm
by SeanR
I know I'm repeating myself, but I just call Roger and get the Gates hose for a good price.

Re: Alternator cooling hose option

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:50 pm
by Geza-aka-Zombo
SeanR wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:23 pm I know I'm repeating myself, but I just call Roger and get the Gates hose for a good price.
Unless he sells a different type now, the one I bought from Roger 2 years ago is the type that fails when exposed to trans fluid.

Re: Alternator cooling hose option

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:14 pm
by Tony
I got some from mc master carr. Havent installed it yet though.