Open Road

eflight wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:09 pm

amdavid wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:33 pm Who's in...?
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1988 ... 9-komfort/

Would be a tough choice between this and a CGT.

Not really, the 959 bid says "BID TO $810,000 ON 9/28/16"
so its an old auction that never got sold

Wrong auction. It's this one: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987- ... 9-komfort/.

I'm not sure which one I'd pick. Both the greatest P-cars ever made to my liking. I'd probably give a nod to the CGT.

The link above was to an old auction but there is a red 959 Komfort currently being auctioned. Currently at $1.859,959.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987- ... 9-komfort/

Crisis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:27 am The link above was to an old auction but there is a red 959 Komfort currently being auctioned. Currently at $1.859,959.

I guess its time to sell the house and cash out the 401K plan then.

New BaT record for a successful sale today. The 959 is going to need to go hard to beat it.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1930- ... -ruhrbeck/

Not BAT, but would make a very nice drop into a 928 or something else interesting...or for the price a nice man cave display...

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/198 ... -f1-engine

The red 959 Komfort sold for $2,120,000.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987- ... 9-komfort/

I know car prices are high right now and all , but $21K for a go cart?????

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1961- ... 0-engines/

Not BaT, but certainly Bat...

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/ca ... 2022-02-21

eflight wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:28 am I know car prices are high right now and all , but $21K for a go cart?????

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1961- ... 0-engines/

yeah, that one was a shocker. I always follow the go carts and mini bikes, thinking to make a grab for my grandson at some point. Not that one, that's for sure.

Crazy right? My brother and I bought an Ala Kart from a guy down the hill from us for 50 bucks in maybe 70'. Pennies were part of the transaction. We also had a pretty much endless supply of West Bend motors from the bone pile at my dad's business. They used the same motor on jumping jack compactors (one legged ass kickers) and the mechanics would just install new motors instead of spending the time to repair them.

I also have a 69 Z-50a that I need to do something with.

I've gotten the 356 speedster bug again. The real thing is above my budget, so I thought a replica would be the way to go.
I've been watching the BAT auctions for replicas, wow, the prices for a replica are skyrocketing.
No surprise I guess when you see a dealer buy one on BAT at 43K and then put on his web site the next day for 78K.

Once you get into 50K territory I start looking at used Caymans and even 911s and wonder why I would want a 356 replica over a real modern Porsche.
Once again my logical brain stops my fun impulse purchases in its tracks.

Or maybe a nice real 356 fixer upper for $60K

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds ... id=2483188

Can't go wrong with a factory purple steering wheel....

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1992- ... -coupe-28/

Wade B wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am Can't go wrong with a factory purple steering wheel....

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1992- ... -coupe-28/

$77K with about 8 hours to go. Wow!

Color does matter (and miles of course)

linderpat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 7:06 am

Wade B wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am Can't go wrong with a factory purple steering wheel....

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1992- ... -coupe-28/

$77K with about 8 hours to go. Wow!

Color does matter (and miles of course)

Wow....sold at $164,000

^^^Absolutely eye popping. In fact, I really don't understand that one at all.

Hmmmm, 1992 4-cylinder or a 997.2 GT3, similar mileage. Tough choices……

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2011- ... 911-gt3-9/

ranger22 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:12 am Hmmmm, 1992 4-cylinder or a 997.2 GT3, similar mileage. Tough choices……

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2011- ... 911-gt3-9/

GT3 all day...

i am not a traitor wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:06 pm

ranger22 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:12 am Hmmmm, 1992 4-cylinder or a 997.2 GT3, similar mileage. Tough choices……

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2011- ... 911-gt3-9/

GT3 all day...

I'm sure the Ranger was tongue planted firmly in cheek. No choice at all really.

All depends if you're going to drive it or just collect it. Regardless of what they can do on the street or track, there are far fewer purple 968s with 8K miles on them than there are 997.2 GT3s. This one wasn't bought to drive.

Here's one one of the comments from the listing:

This sold for $65k two years ago, which means at this price its been appreciating over $3.5k a month on average since then or an 130% increase in price. Absolutely amazing ROI for the current owner/seller. If the same trend continues with another 130% increase over two years then the cost would be over $350,000. Astounding. Check back in March 2024 and we’ll see where 968 values are sitting.

Also, apparently this was listed on Hemmings for $75K with no takers before it went on BaT. Great website to sell on, not so good for buyers that just have to have it and get caught up in a bidding war.

Different site, but here's something interesting.

A 1992 E36 M3 with 6-speed manual transmission and a Euro-spec 321HP engine (the one with the individual throttle bodies). So a "real" E36 M3.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3Leypq ... w-m3-coupe

Interesting (at least to me) was this Fiberfab Jamaican that popped up on BaT;

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968- ... an-ii-v-8/

I tried to buy the earlier version of this car (with MGA mechanicals) as my first auto back in the 70's, but my dad vetoed the idea.

Probably saved me a bunch of grief in the long run, but I would have been cool at school for a while I recon

This isn't really a BaT "find" as it's our Kart that we have a friend whose an experienced auction seller, do the listing for us;

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/f-w-l ... l-go-kart/

Should make for an interesting week

Wow. That's off to a flying start...

cool gocart! Good luck, but you are already in the black on it I'm guessing.

linderpat wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:26 am cool gocart! Good luck, but you are already in the black on it I'm guessing.

Thanks, it's always risky going No Reserve but we passed that mark by the end of the 1st day

If I can figure out how to get that to Dallas, I’ll be bidding on it

ranger22 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:05 am If I can figure out how to get that to Dallas, I’ll be bidding on it.

Well it easily fits in the back of our minivan, once we remove the center row seats

NSXguy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:54 pm

linderpat wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:26 am cool gocart! Good luck, but you are already in the black on it I'm guessing.

Thanks, it's always risky going No Reserve but we passed that mark by the end of the 1st day

wow 7K now.
I was a bit disappointed that there was no drifting going around the corner in the driving video

eflight wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:12 pm

NSXguy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:54 pm

linderpat wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:26 am cool gocart! Good luck, but you are already in the black on it I'm guessing.

Thanks, it's always risky going No Reserve but we passed that mark by the end of the 1st day

wow 7K now.
I was a bit disappointed that there was no drifting going around the corner in the driving video

It's a 37 year old Kart that was 3hp when new, but yeah......I should have told my wife to drive it flat out

Unlike many of the BaT auctions I've watched, this one didn't have an exciting flurry of activity right at the end...but we're quite happy with the result and await their plans for pickup

Congrats. That did seem like a nice result.

NSXguy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:23 pm Unlike many of the BaT auctions I've watched, this one didn't have an exciting flurry of activity right at the end...but we're quite happy with the result and await their plans for pickup

Woo hoo. Even in today's Monopoly money, that's a pretty good return.

Dropped the Kart off at Reliable Transport today for it's trip to Rhode Island.....

Cool, now I'll have to keep an eye out for it. Any chance it went to one of the 2 car museums out here?

eflight wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:06 am Cool, now I'll have to keep an eye out for it. Any chance it went to one of the 2 car museums out here?

They didn't say so explicitly, but since the name came up with the shipper I would look here first;

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_ ... sland.html

NSXguy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:24 pm

eflight wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:06 am Cool, now I'll have to keep an eye out for it. Any chance it went to one of the 2 car museums out here?

They didn't say so explicitly, but since the name came up with the shipper I would look here first;

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_ ... sland.html

Thanks, that would have been my guess. FYI that place has close ties with Jay Leno and Don Osborne. I actually met Osborne there a few years ago.

eflight wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:30 pm

NSXguy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:24 pm

eflight wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:06 am Cool, now I'll have to keep an eye out for it. Any chance it went to one of the 2 car museums out here?

They didn't say so explicitly, but since the name came up with the shipper I would look here first;

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_ ... sland.html

Thanks, that would have been my guess. FYI that place has close ties with Jay Leno and Don Osborne. I actually met Osborne there a few years ago.

I read that Leno has a home close by, and one person who toured the museum said in a review that they do feature go-karts (presumably on a rotating basis- like the rest of the collection).

A future segment on Jay Leno's Garage?

NSXguy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:10 pm

eflight wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:30 pm

NSXguy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:24 pm
They didn't say so explicitly, but since the name came up with the shipper I would look here first;

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_ ... sland.html

Thanks, that would have been my guess. FYI that place has close ties with Jay Leno and Don Osborne. I actually met Osborne there a few years ago.

I read that Leno has a home close by, and one person who toured the museum said in a review that they do feature go-karts (presumably on a rotating basis- like the rest of the collection).

Yeah, Leno bought a house in Newport about a year ago. Osborne must have a house here as well since he was at the local cars and coffee last month. I'll let you know if I see it.

This V12 Jag project is kind of wild;

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971- ... m-chassis/

https://www.motortrend.com/features/5-t ... I8ozh_EOVc

You know you want it...!

https://www.2shores.com/en/cars/offers/ ... 405/detail

I've officially come to the conclusion that BAT is a great place to sell a car, and a horrible place to buy.........unless you want to overpay for something. I just don't see any bargains there any more.

My example, and please hold the snarky comments :

I was recently bidding on a ........ready for it..........a 1966 Austin Healey Sprite. Why, in God's name you might ask. My very first sports car was a '67 Sprite. A real POS I bought for $650 (this was many years ago) that today I wouldn't have trusted to drive across town. But I digress........this '66 was nearly identical to mine, was literally almost like new, beautifully restored, rust repaired properly and documented, a few minor easy-to-correct flaws, etc. Brought back great memories and I wanted it.
I was prepared to bid up to $12k, thinking that was all the money in the world. I placed an initial low bid and waited for the last day to go back in. When I checked it, it was waaay over what I was willing to pay. It sold for $19,750 !! + BAT commission......+ shipping if necessary.

A '66 Sprite.......over $20K !

Oh well..........

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966- ... -mk-iii-3/

Same opinion here. And I think there are folks on BAT that simply bid to force the price higher. And in them , the dealers and the flippers and prices get high pretty quickly.

The challenge then becomes to find a site or listing that is a a good buy or at least reasonable. Unfortunately those folks look at BAT prices and adjust theirs accordingly.

There is an 86 911 targa not far from me listed on FaceBook, has a ripped roof, ripped seats, busted window switch and who knows what else wrong with it. Guy didn't even completely uncover it for the photos . I looked on his FB page and his buddy refers to it as his lemon. Guy wants $55K for it. Not sure what he is smoking. I'm be tempted to lowball it and see what he comes back with, but if the easy to fix things are busted, then likely the engine was never really taken care of.

The search continues

Here is a beauty https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970- ... camino-41/
Just WOW This Car almost compares to mine except for it being an LS6 4 speed. Look at the bed on this car awesome, my restorer took over two weeks of sanding fill coats more sanding then blocked sanded for my bed to look like this.

Not BAT but FB has an aircooled 911 I can afford

Not a BaT find, but thought it very interesting that a 1995 928 GTS sold for $406K at Monterey.

https://www.hagerty.com/media/market-tr ... erey-2022/

Here's the text from the story in the Hagerty link:

Sold for $406,500 (RM Sotheby’s)

#1 condition (Concours) value: $165,000

At the end of the Porsche 928’s long 1977-95 run came the GTS, which is not only the last of the series but also the quickest and most highly-developed. A slow seller when new, the 928 GTS is also rather rare, and according to RM Sotheby’s just 26 US-market cars came with a 5-speed manual like this one (automatics carry a discount of as much as 50 percent in the Hagerty Price Guide).

Naturally, then, RM’s 1,650-mile Midnight Blue Metallic 928 was going to attract some Porsche-loving eyes. Nobody expected this number, however. Not RM Sotheby’s, who put a $225,000 – $275,000 estimate on it. And not us, who value a 928 GTS in #1 condition at $165K in the price guide. The car even caused more of a stir than Beatle George Harrison’s 928 S, which sold for “just” $100,800 the previous day.

It’s also double the previous record for a 928, as long as you ignore the $2M car from Risky Business that sold last year. That wasn’t the only staggering Porsche sale on the peninsula: over at Gooding & Co. a paint-to-sample Caledonia Green 1978 930 brought $478K against a #1 value of $187K.

yes, that 928 GTS sale was eye popping. I don't know what happened in the room, or why it ran up like it did. From what I have read about the car itself, it was very nice, but not something extraordinary. And the thing is, it isn't like one guy had to have it and would pay anything, no matter how crazy, the seller wanted. There were at least 2 people in the room driving that result, and maybe more. Anyway, I'm happy to see it, you know, "all ships rising" sort of thing.

linderpat wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:55 am yes, that 928 GTS sale was eye popping. I don't know what happened in the room, or why it ran up like it did. From what I have read about the car itself, it was very nice, but not something extraordinary. And the thing is, it isn't like one guy had to have it and would pay anything, no matter how crazy, the seller wanted. There were at least 2 people in the room driving that result, and maybe more. Anyway, I'm happy to see it, you know, "all ships rising" sort of thing.

could BAT be the new money laundering place?

eflight wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 7:35 am could BAT be the new money laundering place?

While I've had that thought about some of the BaT prices myself on occasion, this 928 was sold in a traditional auction by Sotheby's at Monterey. The money laundering comment is still valid though - no one seems able to explain the selling price. As Linderpat said though, in any auction you just need to have the right two bidders that really want it.