Open Road

Time to let her go...

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1991-porsche-928-gt/

Yeah. Saw that.

Those the Augment wheels?

Out of curiosity: sizes, offsets. And tires?

Yep, Augment. Nitto N555 G2 tires.
245/45/17, 8.5" ET66 up front and 315/35/17, 10.5" ET51 on the rear

Quick correction on the Facebook car listed above as in Arvada (https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... ger_banner): it's not in Arvada. It's about 3 hours northwest, near Steamboat Springs. Arvada is in Denver Metro, Steamboat is in the mountains about 40 miles south of Wyoming.

If it were here in town I'd go look at it.

Matt

Beautiful....I hope you get top dollar!

I saw this last night while perusing FB. Might be useful for someone here.
Clean Title, no engine but the interior doesn't look too bad
1985 and $1500

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... tid=5EkCtN

I like the wheels.

hessank wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:34 am I saw this last night while perusing FB. Might be useful for someone here.
Clean Title, no engine but the interior doesn't look too bad
1985 and $1500

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... tid=5EkCtN

linderpat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:20 pm I like the wheels.

Ad says they are 17x9 wheels. Car is located in Albertville, Alabama. Wonder if that is/was Prussian Blue Metallic?

Really not bad for a parts car (fenders, hood, bumpers, headlights etc)

I have nothing to do with this sale but just saw it on my Facebook feed so thought I'd share it with all of you:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... tid=dXMIcH

fpena944 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:27 am I have nothing to do with this sale but just saw it on my Facebook feed so thought I'd share it with all of you:

Thank you. I will dub this one

"The Charlottesville Ghost"

in honor of nearby Halloween and its color.

Description seems a bit misinformed but claims it is an 86.5. No VIN on the ad (but I am not on Facebook):

"This desirable variant has the Faster S4 Motor & S4 Brakes."

No motor pics, however, so that is concerning.

Blue interior looks pretty good in the video (except the aftermarket wrapping on the steering wheel):

yes, interesting description indeed, since it does not have a "faster S4 motor". The engine specs are essentially the same for 85/86 US models (and a few 86 Euro models that had the US pipe organ intake). And I'm not sure hoe brakes can be "faster" as well, but I think that is just bad writing. FB, like eBay, is like Walmart of the internet.

‘87 just listed on BaT appears to have no air filter(*) installed.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987- ... 28-s4-137/

It is *probably* that the K&N filter and air box top are so poorly fitted that it appears the filter is missing.

Rhetorical question: How well does the filter do its job if fitted like that? How much unfiltered air reaches the engine?

Non-rhetorical question: For how many engine operating hours has the air filter been like that?

(*) I’m not even going to bother with the standard speech on a K&N filter in a 928. This group knows that scoop already.

Thoughtfully, the seller included a close-up:

Not the whole car but some nice leather seats listed on FB


1986-95 Porsche 928 Seats Black Leather great shape - Located: Seattle Washington
$1,888 · In stock
Listed in Renton, WA

"Like new 1986-1995 Porsche 928 Black leather seats. Well taken care of. Was going to install them in my 1985 and decided to keep it stock and have decided to sell these. Also has a pair of Black 911/944 seats that I will be listing next "


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... 112l%22%7D

No affiliation: 1983 Porsche, $105,000 ..... Elmsford, NY
Driven 8,651 miles
Manual transmission
Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
Fuel type: Gasoline
Excellent condition
Clean title

That's quite optimistic for an S. Very nice, but I would have put the floor mat in correctly before taking the photos.

XR4Tim wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 1:20 pm That's quite optimistic for an S. Very nice, but I would have put the floor mat in correctly before taking the photos.

Agree & agree.

@hessank, let's dub this one "The Optimist". Though I doubt we will hear much more about it.

Did anyone else notice at least 3 other 928's in the background of the first picture?

My confusion comes from this trio of additional gauges.
At 41 years old and <10K miles, it was obviously NOT a driver's car.
So who needed or why these ..... does not make sense to me.

You and me both Fred.

The other question I have is: When, last Century, did the odometer gear break?

Yes, and the edge-broken-up AC temp sensor inlet always makes me question who did work on the car.

But suddenly, someone is now thinking it is very valuable!

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/9 ... ick-6.html

Dave K (davek9 on TOS) is selling this 78 (VIN 9288200774) for $7k with a lot of original 78 bits and a ton of work to straighten it out after a rear end driveway incident that happened to LT Texan who owned it since the 90's. Still needs some work, but to me it is a screaming deal even with all the work still required.

Popped up on FB

https://www.facebook.com/share/1D2Japp4Tn/

N_Jay wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:14 pm Popped up on FB

https://www.facebook.com/share/1D2Japp4Tn/

For Posterity:

Pulled this over from my post in the Bring a Trailer Finds thread in Cars and Driving:

I'm lusting after this one. Green Euro 928S with a 5 speed and pascha interior. That's as good as it gets in my books.

Will be curious to see where the high bid ends up and if it meets reserve.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1980-porsche-928s/

Crisis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:15 pm Pulled this over from my post in the Bring a Trailer Finds thread in Cars and Driving:

I'm lusting after this one. Green Euro 928S with a 5 speed and pascha interior. That's as good as it gets in my books.

Will be curious to see where the high bid ends up

Went so high, it now has its own thread!
Green 80 on BaT

I'm not going to post a picture here, because I would surely get banned.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/286290415488

XR4Tim wrote:I'm not going to post a picture here, because I would surely get banned.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/286290415488

YIKES.

90 GT on BaT

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990- ... 928-gt-21/

I have *never* seen a 928 engine bay this -^ fucked up.

It looks like it was assembled by drunk monkeys that had never even seen a 928 before.

Anyone that buys this one needs to bring a blank check if they expect me, or Greg, or Sean, or Howard to make it right.

It is so fucked up that I find it hard to believe that it has 45k-miles. 145k-miles and a cluster swap. Maybe.

You’re not kidding Dave. This one is a hot mess!

All my comments on BaT are now flagged for moderation. This I posted two hours ago and hasn't yet been "let through:"


Another engine air filter installed upside down.

I looked at one engine bay picture for about 10 seconds. This is a very-preliminary list of things that are wrong:
Fuel supply hard line is completely misrouted.
Front main harness is misrouted.
LH harness is misrouted.
Fuel vacuum system is misrouted and probably cross-connected to the accessory vacuum system.

Seller: You need to start over. I suggest that you withdrawn this auction and spend some time with the 928 community. Avail yourselves of the 928 community's knowledge. Compare and contrast this GT's engine with picture of properly-done engines. There are countless pictures of what a 928 GT's engine bay should look like and many detailed tech docs on the tasks.

Yeah, what’s up with renn to censure your comments on this one? Is this hot mess somebody’s friends car? The strength of renn is to provide R&D on stuff like this.

linderpat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:55 am Yeah, what’s up with renn to censure your comments on this one? Is this hot mess somebody’s friends car? The strength of renn is to provide R&D on stuff like this.

BaT censored my comment. Not Rennlist.

worf wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:24 am

linderpat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:55 am Yeah, what’s up with renn to censure your comments on this one? Is this hot mess somebody’s friends car? The strength of renn is to provide R&D on stuff like this.

BaT censored my comment. Not Rennlist.

Aha. They have left mine in though.

linderpat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 9:00 am

worf wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:24 am

linderpat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:55 am Yeah, what’s up with renn to censure your comments on this one? Is this hot mess somebody’s friends car? The strength of renn is to provide R&D on stuff like this.

BaT censored my comment. Not Rennlist.

Aha. They have left mine in though.

Maybe because I gave it a thumbs up?

Have not seen your post, yet, @worf

Here is my pending BaT post:
(Edit: Now that it posted, it serves two purposes 1) the stated purpose, and 2) interested buyers can also readily compare some roughly equivalent 928's. It was @worf's idea to reference well done motors, so, at least we kinda got that part in!)

hernanca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:28 am Have not seen your post, yet,...

It's been 24 hours. It's been deep-sixed.

BaT seems to be becoming a typical "used car dealer" but with lots of hype.

Holy Chit - the history of that GT on BaT was just updated by a prior owner - I'd consider this car nearly radioactive at this point. It was put back together by Beverly Hills Car Club, maybe one of the shadiest dealers on the planet. Explains a lot. This car has been severely butchered, and the mileage seems suspect too, based on the comments. Yikes!

Just remember folks: on BaT no one can hear you scream.

With that '90 GT's auction nearing its end, it seems obvious to me that BaT must be routinely censoring posts that cast a bad light on an auction.

BaT is a sellers market now and no better than ebay or the typical shyster used car salesmen.

Did you try 'contact the seller' to ask about the engine bay?

LTCMontana wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:17 pm Did you try 'contact the seller' to ask about the engine bay?

I don't understand the question. I have no questions about the engine bay.

I have observations about the engine bay that BaT censored.

In short: the seller has dipped a rancid pig in lipstick and BaT is censoring posts that attempt to point it out.

Da lipsticked, rancid pig has sold (pig in a poke?)...


The "money" shots:

New owner is going to have a stroke if he brings that to one of the 928 people that know what they are doing.

I probably wouldn't touch that unless it's a motor out jobs.

Well a first for me,
the falling off fuel pump cover, and the convoluted fuel supply line,
it looks like the line will leave an impression in the hood.
that car is a mess,
I would tell him to read the FAQ on RL before he spends another dollar.

It sure is strange that so many airfilters are put on upside down.
This Gray GT is a shit show of the finest caliber..
As good as it feels to say something on BAT,
the new owner is eventually gonna find out.

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/c ... 22246.html

Interesting car with all the GTS mods to a '89 GT. Kinda cool.

JBT3 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:32 pm https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/c ... 22246.html

Interesting car with all the GTS mods to a '89 GT. Kinda cool.

No. Not all the mods. No GTS rear quarters and that's what really makes a GTS stand out body-wise. No big GTS brakes. No '91+ "fat" shift knob. Meh... really just the apron and wheels.

GTS rear apron just means that it was hit in the rear after '95-ish when Porsche started only stocking aprons with the impression for the full-width reflector.

Still '89 S4 5-speed is a rare beast and is arguably better than an GT in a narrow context.

That one looks to have not been too messed up. It does need proper fuel lines. And the engine air filter is upside-right at least. Interior work is not top-notch.

$40k is optimistic perhaps. And not well-presented.

I’m a sucker for the full width reflector and GTS wheels. Agree it would be mucho better with GTS quarters.

JBT3 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:35 am I’m a sucker for the full width reflector and GTS wheels. Agree it would be mucho better with GTS quarters.

GTS wheels are easy. I've got a set on my '91. And there's an '87 in the shop right now with those wheels.

The 'fat' shift knob can be purchased from PAG. It's a great upgrade.

But, For me, it's the GTS's ass that makes it a GTS.

Whenever I see the GTS rear apron on a pre-late-'93 I know - almost certainly- that it was hit in the rear.

Very few people would go through the trouble voluntarily.

That Amazon GTS that was just RNM on BaT originally had a "non-reflecty" rear. 'cause it's a '92. (aka early-'93)

I have(*) a picture of it from 1999(-ish) with the original rear apron.

(*) But, I probably can't find it.

JBT3 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:32 pm https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/c ... 22246.html

Interesting car with all the GTS mods to a '89 GT. Kinda cool.

Pictures for posterity. Note Cup 1 wheels in some pictures and some sort of twist wheels in others.
VIN is WP0JB0923KS860081
Mileage is listed as 98,500 (probably miles units)

hernanca wrote: ↑Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:04 am Note Cup 1 wheels in some pictures and some sort of twist wheels in others.

Easy: 928 Mullet

Twists on driver's side.
Cups on the passenger's side.

Poor car.

Here's another hot mess 928 GT:

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1991 ... -928-gt-7/

If the engine bay pictures don't make you a bit disgusted/frightened/nauseous read the notes from the techs in the invoices.

Only bid on this one if you live in walking distance from Alan.