LOL @ the Brit’s losing their shyte saying Mick just handed Max the championship by causing the red flag. Nice to see Max having a bit of luck for once, hoping for a great restart and that he can hold back the Merc the rest of the race.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:34 pm
by Scott at Team Harco
LPMM wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:18 pm
LOL @ the Brit’s losing their shyte saying Mick just handed Max the championship by causing the red flag. Nice to see Max having a bit of luck for once, hoping for a great restart and that he can hold back the Merc the rest of the race.
Nope. Another mess. I'm not impressed with the confines of this track. It resembles NASCAR more than F1, with all the contact.
LPMM wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:18 pm
LOL @ the Brit’s losing their shyte saying Mick just handed Max the championship by causing the red flag. Nice to see Max having a bit of luck for once, hoping for a great restart and that he can hold back the Merc the rest of the race.
Nope. Another mess. I'm not impressed with confines of this track. It resembles NASCAR more than F1, with all the contact.
Exactly. Monaco is more confined, but the speeds are slower, and that makes a difference, not that Monaco is acceptable either. This is a dangerous track.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:47 pm
by LPMM
^^^ Agreed about track. Note to self, send a thank you note to Esteban for the restart.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:40 pm
by David993S
I am just sooooo sick of Hamilton. He doesn't even have bad luck when he has bad luck.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:09 pm
by Scott at Team Harco
David993S wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:40 pm
I am just sooooo sick of Hamilton. He doesn't even have bad luck when he has bad luck.
Agree.
That was a strange race. All even going into the last one...
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:18 pm
by JustBud
David993S wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:40 pm
I am just sooooo sick of Hamilton. He doesn't even have bad luck when he has bad luck.
Not only am I sick of Hamilton, I can't stand Crofty and Brundle......
I've never seen more homer type announcers.
Spoiler!
As LPMM said, they (mainly Crofty and Hammy pants, I have to give Brundle credit on this one) lose their minds when Max and Red Bull get the benefit of the red flag, completely forgetting Hairdo was awarded the same benefit earlier in the season.
Then Hammilocks, goes SLOOOOOOOOW on the formation lap to make Max sit on cooling tires for the restart.....
Another red flag and all of a sudden Brundle and Crofty say we should now have a rolling start.... of course that would benefit HamSandwich. Nope Max makes an incredible start and makes up two grid spots....
Then Max defends, racing incident to me and surprisingly to Brundle, although instantaneously Crofty the bag boy compares it to Brazil..... they instruct Max to give the place, he slows, swerves a bit to be fair, and Hamfist tags the rear end..... another British meltdown.... Crofty and Hamilton, "He brake checked me!", Brundle (again giving credit where I can) "Lewis had plenty of room."
Max still gives place and then receives a five second penalty!
Max tries to pass Lewis again and Lewis drives Max off track........wait for it.........
Michael Masi gives Hamsteak a warning!!
I'm done... I think the ultimate justice would be done with Hammy blowing that wonderful engine in Abu Dhabi.....
Can you tell I'm a bit wound up over this???
I feel better now...
I hope Red Bull dials in their car and Max outdrives Hamilton in AbuDhabi and takes it.... although Abu Dhabi has historically been a Merc track (what do you know)
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:26 pm
by Multi21
David993S wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:40 pm
I am just sooooo sick of Hamilton. He doesn't even have bad luck when he has bad luck.
yup. he had his wing crunched twice and it never mattered. and was faster with it in such condition.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:50 pm
by SeanR
I must be the odd one out on this, but thought this was the most action packed race of the year. On the edge of my seat the entire time. I can generally ignore Crofty as he’s better than what we used to have the in states for announcers, but his talking over team radio is annoy as hell.
I didnt think Max deserved the 5 seconds penalty and Hamilton should have been penalized for nailing the back of the RBR screwing up the rear end and diffuser. But I s purpose this gives Liberty exactly what they hoped for, a shoot out on the last race of the season. If max and Lulu both crash out then Max wins due to number of race wins. Wouldn’t that be fun to see.
I think next year the drivers will have a better sense of what to expect on this track and will be a bit more cautious. I did enjoy it though.
David993S wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:40 pm
I am just sooooo sick of Hamilton. He doesn't even have bad luck when he has bad luck.
yup. he had his wing crunched twice and it never mattered. and was faster with it in such condition.
And to think I switched from Formula Atlantic and Formula Continental to Formula Ford because I didn't want to keep futzing around with wings angles & aerodynamics............obviously they don't really matter.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:15 am
by linderpat
yes I think that was some race too. In fact, this season has been pretty damn good. The Netflix show aught to be fantstic this winter/spring. They sure have a lot of material.
I loved how max clutched his champaigne bottle and walked off the stage. Bottas tried for moment to engage him with a squirt, but max was having none of it. The drama - almost like NASCAR!
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:54 am
by SeanR
The memes just keep coming
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Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:34 am
by JustBud
So who wins this weekend?
Verstappen wins race.
Hamilton wins race.
Verstappen wins by way of the Schummi/Senna plan.
FIA steps in if this happens and DQ's Verstappen and hands 8th title to Hamilton.
I'm going with my heart not my head..... Verstappen takes it on the run, I think he pulls out something special.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:19 am
by Scott at Team Harco
I'm definitely pulling for Max. I want a good race but I wouldn't mind Lulu having bad luck, for once.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:06 pm
by Streck-Fu
Lewis pushes Max off the track.
Max takes position from Hamilton.
Stewards: Max need to slow down and give the position back to Hamilton.
Max brakes.
Stewards: Not that hard!!!! Penalty!
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:30 pm
by LPMM
Hoping for some good racing with the recent track changes, the track is supposedly 14 seconds faster now with many opportunities for overtaking added. Looking forward to Max out driving Lulu and getting his first championship.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:49 pm
by Multi21
As LPMM stated, it's hard to say who will win because the track has been reconfigured and IF passing is easier, then I'd have to give the edge to the Mercedes "Spicy" engine, as coined by Toto. A tighter track favors the Red Bull, but doesn't sound like this new layout is that. Qualifying will be interesting as well to see who will be chasing down whom.
If you recall in 2010, Fernando Alonso just had to get by Petrov in a Lotus to win a WDC for Ferrari and defeat Sebastian Vettel in the Red Bull... Try as he might, Alonso couldn't get by him at Abu Dhabi
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:09 pm
by Multi21
This Sunday will be Kimi & Giovanazzi's last race in F1.... based on this video, I'm recommending Kimi for Safety Car driver in 2022 - I don't think Max or Lewis will complain that the SC is driving too slowly LOL. Antonio is not a good passenger hahaha
After seeing the "changes" in the Abu Dhabi track (did they send it to Toto for approval?) I think it will be an extremely uphill battle for young Verstappen.
Here's to hoping the "spicy" engine in the Merc suffers from indigestion this weekend.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:38 pm
by LPMM
Another reason to love Kimi, I will miss his wit.
When asked if he has a pick between Lulu and Max for who will win this year's F1 championship, Kimi replied "Honestly, whoever has the most points will win" LOL!
Then he added, "It doesn’t matter for me who wins, but if I had to choose one, I would probably choose the Red Bull to win it. Something different, you know."
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:10 pm
by Crisis
JustBud wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:34 am
So who wins this weekend?
Verstappen wins race.
Hamilton wins race.
Verstappen wins by way of the Schummi/Senna plan.
FIA steps in if this happens and DQ's Verstappen and hands 8th title to Hamilton.
I'm going with my heart not my head..... Verstappen takes it on the run, I think he pulls out something special.
Verstappen wins race - I'm hoping for this FIA steps in if this happens and DQ's Verstappen and hands 8th title to Hamilton - But expecting this Verstappen wins by way of the Schummi/Senna plan - Possibly because of an attempt to do this
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:05 am
by SeanR
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Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:27 am
by linderpat
so pumped for this weekend! What time does the race start (real time and TV time?)
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:26 am
by SeanR
I'm watching it via EPSN+ app on the TV so whenever I wake up is when I'll watch it.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:27 am
by Scott at Team Harco
I think 5:00 PM local and 8:00 AM here (EST).
Max on pole...
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:36 am
by JustBud
Scott at Team Harco wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:27 am
I think 5:00 PM local and 8:00 AM here (EST).
Max on pole...
YES!!! That was brilliant strategy...... I'm a bit nervous about the tires, but it was nice to see all the Brits trying to patch holes in the deviation from the expected result!
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:07 pm
by Multi21
I don't know why RBR sent Max out on a 2nd run on the mediums when he was clearly fast enough to advance to Q3 and not put another lap on those medium starting tires. Perhaps the lock up was on purpose and they wanted to be on the softs all along but not have Mercedes react and go softs at the end of Q2? Why not split the strategy with Checo and have him start on mediums? I think RBR knew they had to do something different from Mercedes or they genuinely thought the soft would be better for their chances tomorrow. Deceit and misdirection until the very last moment. This is why I love F1!!
Bottas down in 6th won't play apart until the soft tire runners come in for changes. What if there's a safety car in the first 10 laps? Advantage RB? as they all go onto the hards for the remainder of the race? It's going to be very good tomorrow.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:13 pm
by JustBud
Multi21 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:07 pm
I don't know why RBR sent Max out on a 2nd run on the mediums when he was clearly fast enough to advance to Q3 and not put another lap on those medium starting tires. Perhaps the lock up was on purpose and they wanted to be on the softs all along but not have Mercedes react and go softs at the end of Q2? Why not split the strategy with Checo and have him start on mediums? I think RBR knew they had to do something different from Mercedes or they genuinely thought the soft would be better for their chances tomorrow. Deceit and misdirection until the very last moment. This is why I love F1!!
Bottas down in 6th won't play apart until the soft tire runners come in for changes. What if there's a safety car in the first 10 laps? Advantage RB? as they all go onto the hards for the remainder of the race? It's going to be very good tomorrow.
Funny I said the same thing to Lisa as we were watching. When Horner wouldn't face the camera when he was answering Brundle(or Crofty I can't remember). I thought hmmmm, maybe they really want to be on softs but don't want Mercedes knowing..... because you know Mercedes has 20 people watching trying to decipher body language.
All I know is Max and RB put themselves in with a chance, one quite honestly, I never thought they would have.
I would love to see RB win this title with strategy and driving.....
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:29 pm
by SeanR
I had the same reaction as you guys and was just giddy when he pulled 7 tenths on Hammy going on softs. Tomorrow sure is going to be interesting.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:39 pm
by JustBud
Sinking in now..... gonna miss this guy.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:30 am
by Gator_86_951
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:18 am
by David993S
Looks like the Stewards are playing King Maker on lap one.
I'm going to turn it off............
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:30 am
by Scott at Team Harco
Bullshit (non)call.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:52 am
by Gator_86_951
That was a legit pass attempt by Max and a corresponding nonsense “he gave back the advantage” call by the stewards.
Separately, Perez is legend AF.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:35 am
by Scott at Team Harco
Wow! I expected a total non-event. What a great surprise!
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:04 am
by linderpat
Wow indeed! What a finish. No matter what you think of him, u do have to give props to Hammy for class afterwards. He said the right things especially with how it went down. Still, they have no one to blame but themselves. They made bad pit decisions
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:11 am
by dernflatlander
Happy.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:13 am
by Scott at Team Harco
linderpat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:04 am
Wow indeed! What a finish. No matter what you think of him, u do have to give props to Hammy for class afterwards. He said the right things especially with how it went down. Still, they have no one to blame but themselves. They made bad pit decisions
I think they had no choice. They had to keep track position. Luck fell to Max and RBR for once. I am glad they got that last lap of racing in. We'd be lamenting what a boring season finale were it not for that.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:21 am
by David993S
Glad I turned it back on. Completely unexpected. So happy to see Max take it!
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:33 am
by LPMM
Gator_86_951 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:52 am
That was a legit pass attempt by Max and a corresponding nonsense “he gave back the advantage” call by the stewards.
Separately, Perez is legend AF.
Great race and very happy for RBR and Max. The last lap was great racing but Perez holding off Hamsandwich was epic, he deserves a raise and a new contract. Loved the acknowledgment on the team radio “Checo is a legend…. Absolute animal!”
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:34 am
by Gator_86_951
I need a Tshirt made with the back and forth with ToTo and Masi.
Gator_86_951 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:52 am
That was a legit pass attempt by Max and a corresponding nonsense “he gave back the advantage” call by the stewards.
Separately, Perez is legend AF.
Great race and very happy for RBR and Max. The last lap was great racing but Perez holding off Hamsandwich was epic, he deserves a raise and a new contract. Loved the acknowledgment on the team radio “Checo is a legend…. Absolute animal!”
You might appreciate this. Haven't found part 2, yet....
And yes - Checo did a great job of holding up Hammy. That was the highlight of the race, to that point.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:02 pm
by Gator_86_951
Mercedes lawyering up. Toto Wolf looks like caveman lawyer.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:31 pm
by JustBud
I'm drained.... I got nothing..........but smiles.
I thought Verstappen was going to pull out something special, but I didn't expect this.
Wow.
Credit to the Hamilton's, good sportsmanship is to be applauded, Lewis and his father both went to congratulate Max and Jos.
Re: Formula 1 2020 And Beyond
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:01 pm
by JustBud
Just read all your replies guys, I can't argue with anything... Perez was epic.
Hamilton, "That really is some dangerous driving." REALLY? I would call that great defending.
The Merc engine is a masterpiece honestly... like my dad used to say, "That thing runs like a striped a** ape. "
