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By Crumpler
#343912
This is going to be off topic but I fell into a worm hole last night.

This is US data, but potentially ROW too with global economics and human behavior.

Average new car price $ 50,000.00.
Average used car price ( 3 years old or newer) is $30,000.00.
Average age of car on the road is now 13 years old, which is also telling in its own right.

I see people paying incredible prices, both used and new vehicles, with horrible interest rates and loans going out to 96 months in many cases. It smells like 2008, but this time the auto market.

I think the first implosion will be American pick ups.

Pimped out to $80,000.00 trim levels. Grumbling of QC issues right out of the factory. The big three have no desire to undercut each other, which smacks of price fixing to my uneducated mind. I believe heavy tariffs on foreign pick ups go back to LBJ in the 60’s.
God knows what the new tariffs imposed by the Dear Leader have done to that equation.
It’s just weird that no one is acknowledging a problem.
I saw data of over three million pick ups repossessions on bad financing last year alone.

I have always gone with the theory that the car you can afford is the one you can pay cash for, but that obviously is not how the majority feel.
By maddog2020
#343915
trucks sell for more because of the IRS schedule 179 loop hole. Yes the car industry is wonky for sure. I just picked up a 2020 GLE 580 with 40k miles on it CPO and 100k mile pre paid service package, for about 60% less than MSRP from 2020. 60% depreciation in 6 years is crazy. Part of it is the SUV market with Thirsty V8's is soft right now. Having a twin turbo V8 is a blast to daily drive tho.
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By Fox_
#343924
Cars became too expensive then interest rates went up.

Automakers are in trouble across the board.
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By worf
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By Crumpler
#343958
That report is telling.

Again, with my economically illiterate mind, I don’t see the auto market adjusting back to pre-COVID?status, at least not in the foreseeable future.
I’m assuming the cost of new autos drives the continued over pricing of the used car market.
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