[N_Jay]

Asking here since there are more 997.2 than 987.2 out there.

Anyone add Sport/Sport+ to their car post delivery?

Porsche sells a software part for the programming and you (apparently simply) need to add the switches.

What did it cost?
Where there are issues getting it done?
Anyone know if there is a way to have an Indy shop install the software?
Any reason to go "Sport" only as opposed to "Sport/Sport+" (Saves a few $$ on the switches.)

[fpena944]

Asking here since there are more 997.2 than 987.2 out there.

Anyone add Sport/Sport+ to their car post delivery?

Porsche sells a software part for the programming and you (apparently simply) need to add the switches.

What did it cost?
Where there are issues getting it done?
Anyone know if there is a way to have an Indy shop install the software?
Any reason to go "Sport" only as opposed to "Sport/Sport+" (Saves a few $$ on the switches.)

I hardly ever use Sport + on the streets because it holds the gear until redline basically all the time.

But I won't drive my car on a dry road without turning on the Sport button first. It acts like a Cayman should and not like an economy car.

If it's a good price and not a difficult upgrade I would consider it.

[N_Jay]

Asking here since there are more 997.2 than 987.2 out there.

Anyone add Sport/Sport+ to their car post delivery?

Porsche sells a software part for the programming and you (apparently simply) need to add the switches.

What did it cost?
Where there are issues getting it done?
Anyone know if there is a way to have an Indy shop install the software?
Any reason to go "Sport" only as opposed to "Sport/Sport+" (Saves a few $$ on the switches.)

I hardly ever use Sport + on the streets because it holds the gear until redline basically all the time.

But I won't drive my car on a dry road without turning on the Sport button first. It acts like a Cayman should and not like an economy car.

If it's a good price and not a difficult upgrade I would consider it.

Was your car a Sport/Sport+ from the factory or was it added?

Still working out the cost.
Parts (SW is a "Part") is about $1500, but having trouble getting the "Installation cost" quoted.
The "Sport" only switch saves about $100, but given the total, it becomes insignificant.
Installing the physical switch is something I can do, but my understanding is the SW update must be done by a dealer.

[fpena944]

Asking here since there are more 997.2 than 987.2 out there.

Anyone add Sport/Sport+ to their car post delivery?

Porsche sells a software part for the programming and you (apparently simply) need to add the switches.

What did it cost?
Where there are issues getting it done?
Anyone know if there is a way to have an Indy shop install the software?
Any reason to go "Sport" only as opposed to "Sport/Sport+" (Saves a few $$ on the switches.)

I hardly ever use Sport + on the streets because it holds the gear until redline basically all the time.

But I won't drive my car on a dry road without turning on the Sport button first. It acts like a Cayman should and not like an economy car.

If it's a good price and not a difficult upgrade I would consider it.

Was your car a Sport/Sport+ from the factory or was it added?

Still working out the cost.
Parts (SW is a "Part") is about $1500, but having trouble getting the "Installation cost" quoted.
The "Sport" only switch saves about $100, but given the total, it becomes insignificant.
Installing the physical switch is something I can do, but my understanding is the SW update must be done by a dealer.

Mine came with it so not sure if the functionality would be different based on whether it's added afterwards or not.

[worf]

As far as I knew, every Porsche sports car sold starting with the 997/987 came standard with the "Sport" button.

Maybe that started with the 991/981.

Sport+ is part of the factory Sport Chrono (SC) option.

The main reason to get SC on a pre-991.2/981.2(718) is for PSM (NOT PASM) Sport Mode for use on-track.

If indeed there's no Sport mode then that's a reason to get SC added. But, as per El Jefe - Sport+ for pre-991.2/981.2(718) is 100% useless for street driving.

All that written: The DME has to get programmed by a dealer(*) because the PIWIS has to confirm with the mothership's server that SC software has been purchased for the VIN.

For the button, on 991/981/718 the button console is connected to the Bus so various things have to programmed to enable new console buttons. I do not know if the same is true of the 997/987.

(*) I'm not certain that there's any non-dealer level of PAG TechInfo access that allows a non-dealer to code-in Options. And I'm pretty sure that the bootleg PIWISs available don't. But, I could be wrong.

[N_Jay]

That agrees with the most of what I have found, except (apparently) sport was always an option, and not standard.

My understanding (from some credible history with another manufacturer) is that a big part of the reason why you have to to register modifications like "sport" and "sport+" is that the manufacturer has to certify that their CAFE and average emissions standards are being met.
This is why some of the larger manufacturers are famous for updating SW/FW every time they touch the vehicle.

[worf]

My understanding (from some credible history with another manufacturer) is that a big part of the reason why you have to to register modifications like "sport" and "sport+" is that the manufacturer has to certify that their CAFE and average emissions standards are being met.
This is why some of the larger manufacturers are famous for updating SW/FW every time they touch the vehicle.

I always assumed it was PAG making sure they got their option money. With the 991/981 anything more-complicated than a rock has to be VIN-coded. And that's (supposedly) to stem the flow of stolen and counterfeit parts (aka for the children.)

[N_Jay]

My understanding (from some credible history with another manufacturer) is that a big part of the reason why you have to to register modifications like "sport" and "sport+" is that the manufacturer has to certify that their CAFE and average emissions standards are being met.
This is why some of the larger manufacturers are famous for updating SW/FW every time they touch the vehicle.

I always assumed it was PAG making sure they got their option money. With the 991/981 anything more-complicated than a rock has to be VIN-coded. And that's (supposedly) to stem the flow of stolen and counterfeit parts (aka for the children.)

MB has done this for years.
Their reasoning is that theft and "misappropriation" is so high in some markets, that it actually increases their support costs. (Having to provide warranty services due to fraudulent or stolen parts being used.)

[worf]

MB has done this for years.
Their reasoning is that theft and "misappropriation" is so high in some markets, that it actually increases their support costs. (Having to provide warranty services due to fraudulent or stolen parts being used.)

And do you buy that reasoning?

[N_Jay]

MB has done this for years.
Their reasoning is that theft and "misappropriation" is so high in some markets, that it actually increases their support costs. (Having to provide warranty services due to fraudulent or stolen parts being used.)

And do you buy that reasoning?

They were my customer for in-vehicle communications, Telematics, and Informatics systems.
We were responsible to cover any warranty costs that were traced to one of our devices.

[worf]

MB has done this for years.
Their reasoning is that theft and "misappropriation" is so high in some markets, that it actually increases their support costs. (Having to provide warranty services due to fraudulent or stolen parts being used.)

And do you buy that reasoning?

They were my customer for in-vehicle communications, Telematics, and Informatics systems.
We were responsible to cover any warranty costs that were traced to one of our devices.

So... you agree with that reasoning? That VIN-coding's purpose is to ensure supply chain integrity?

I'm genuinely curious.

VIN-coding - seems to me - only secures against stolen parts.

How does that work with used parts? Counterfeit parts?

[N_Jay]

It depends on how sophisticated you want to get. The part can hard code the first VIN, so subsequent coding will always indicate a used part.
Aftermarket/replacement parts can be initially coded with a PsudoVIN related to the SN of the part.
Counterfeit parts would need to reverse engineer the algorithm that generates the PsudoVIN. (I don't know if this term was adopted)
This was all around 1997 to 2001. Not sure how it all evolved.
What I do know is they were very insistent on the return or destruction of any coded device.
Port Installs were very challenging as they wanted everything to be set up as a "Factory Install", but the parts kits were most like a "Dealer Install", and we often did not have the VIN to match to the kit (as you would in a factory install).